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Postby petrov » 09 Sep 2005, 12:49

thank you, Torben!
i'd appreciated it to learn something else, but i hope a future version of MyGestureEditor will have the functionality i need.
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Postby TorbenGB » 09 Sep 2005, 13:08

I'm sorry Petrov, did you not hear? There will not *be* a future version of MyGestureEditor (unless we code it ourselves!). It's not at all likely that whoever bought FW is going to continue to support this product line. We have to make do with what we have.
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Postby eve » 10 Sep 2005, 10:44

I have no iGesture so can't play but there are many things that can be done directly inside the XML that the Editor doesn't provide for.

Has anybody tried something like what is asked here?

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Postby ivanw » 10 Sep 2005, 17:43

:roll: I don't have an iGesture at hand to try what I am suggesting here but you will tell me...

Taken from the default configuration data used by the editor when it looks in FW_defaults.jar file:

The file FW_igesture_numpadkeys.xml defines the keys layout of theses products:
igesture numpad fivnumpad gestretro retro microstation.

It contains the following entry:
<pre> <TapArea xcenter="9.9" ycenter="0.1" isRectangular="true" width="1.9" height="1.9"
macro_name=" . " layoutContext="NumLock ScrollLock" >
<KeyEvent keyCode="Numpad." />
</TapArea></pre> :idea: You can try to redefine this key without the layoutContext="NumLock ScrollLock" atttribute in your configuration file.
This restriction will not apply any more when you enter some other context...
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Postby petrov » 16 Sep 2005, 08:28

good morning, Ivanw!
thank you for your answer.
i dont have experience enough in programming to understand what you suggest. i didn't find the FW_igesture_numpadkeys.xml so i couldn't try it out.
can you or somebody else give me some further explanations.
thank you!
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no i didn't know that the fingerworks products probably will not be developed any longer. what a pity!
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Postby petrov » 16 Sep 2005, 12:57

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Postby petrov » 20 Sep 2005, 11:40

hello Ivanw!

as mentioned i've found my workaround but this just to give feedback.

this is my user-xml:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE MTS_config>
<MTS_config MTS_config_version="1.60" min_firmware_version="1.46">
<RequireLib name="FW_main" />
<MacroLibrary />
<UserOptions driverContext=" win qwerty" layoutContext=" numlock" toggle_numlock_internally="true" european_50Hz_filter="true" tap_timeout_ms="512" typematic_hold_ms="640">
<EnabledRighthandGestures list=" scroll_mouse fivefinger_mouse three_buttons clipboard_op file_op window_op text_nav pengrip_op tap_range_chord weird_chords search_edit" />
<EnabledLefthandGestures list="" />
<EnabledBimanualGestures list="" />
</UserOptions>
<TapArea xcenter="4.00" ycenter="3.05" xradius="1.00" isRectangular="true" surface_version="8" macro_name=" InvisibleKey0 " lib="user">
<KeyEvent keyCode="F2" />
</TapArea>
[b]<TapArea xcenter="9.90" ycenter="0.10" xradius="0.95" isRectangular="true" macro_name=".">
<KeyEvent keyCode="Numpad." />
</TapArea>

</MTS_config>

anyway, the behavior remains the same:
the dot-key gives me a comma.
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Postby ivanw » 20 Sep 2005, 22:32

The macro_name="." part does not comply with the observable syntax by a very faint detail that may be the issue:

The dot character should be preceded by ONE space and followed by TWO spaces as follows: " . "

Here is the original entry from the default file FW_igesture_numpadkeys.xml:
<pre><TapArea xcenter="9.9" ycenter="0.1" isRectangular="true" width="1.9" height="1.9"
macro_name=" . " layoutContext="NumLock ScrollLock">
<KeyEvent keyCode="Numpad." />
</TapArea></pre>As this character string is an identifier delimited by the surrounding double quotes, spaces should be considered significant here.
Anyway, this is worth a try if you are not too bored yet ;)
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Postby Rqyteqto » 21 Sep 2005, 08:25

You are amazing. Whether or not this is the answer, your attention to detail is fantastic.
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Postby ivanw » 21 Sep 2005, 12:29

Rqyteqto, I believe that anything valuable is such because of the details. Even great ideas like Westerman's must be followed by an incredible amount of work on countless details. That makes me sense the urge to be as smart and patient as possible while exploring this subject.

I am so sure that we should experiment all the topics brought by this forum members to learn about the unexplored possibilities. This is why I am willing to post on any issue on which I can have some "valuable" input. Involvements brings me more insight whether I happen to be helpful or not ;)

This post is mainly motivated by my will to encourage those who have less technical insight about FW devices. Please, share anything you have in mind that could be achieved through customization. I would even welcome funny ideas, those happen to be the best ones at the end :lol:
I am really happy about how I could eliminate ALL reaches thanks to . I am curious about how far we can go with ideas like these...
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