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Are they gone?!?

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Are they gone?!?

Postby Minox » 02 Nov 2005, 20:04

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false alarm...

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Postby ivanw » 05 Nov 2005, 22:34

I have some snapshots of a very small selection of threads pointed at by the results of some searches at the early stages of my discovering the technology.
What I know for sure is that what I will miss most will be those messages I have not read yet :!: ( )

Anyway achieving theses pages would be a nightmare. Would this be realized, how would these messages be made available through a forum server relying on some database tables. All this is possible though, you've just got a second nightmare at hand. :wink:
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Postby The00Dustin » 06 Nov 2005, 00:46

There are many softwares made specifically for downloading entire web pages. One would think these softwares could be used to point at forums.fingerworks.com, and collect all of the data. One would also think that it would be fairly easy to past said downloads elsewhere, albeit not necessarily integrated into another forum. However, it would probably have been a lot better to have come to this realisation before the administrators of the forum took down a large portion of the links. Anyway, I don't really know which softwares would be best for doing this, just that they exist. Someone should look into it and save our sorry tails.
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Postby Rqyteqto » 06 Nov 2005, 05:51

Well, it is possible to save the pages as HTML files with Firefox. I've started in on saving pages. It will take a while, but a half dozen a day and in a few months, I should make a fairly sizeable dent.

I suppose the materials are copyrighted or something. I hope not but in that case, I will have only saved them temporarily, for viewing off line. I promise. I absolutely swear I will have no permanent files of this material.
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Postby VaderPi » 07 Nov 2005, 20:31

You should use instead. It will go much faster. And it does a better job than Firefox's built-in page save support. I use it all the time, but I never thought to try it on the FingerWorks forum. I'll have to try this when I get home. I doubt that my employer will appreciate the surge in bandwidth usage.
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Postby scratch » 08 Nov 2005, 10:00

You can also use "wget -r" to recursively download the whole site. wget is a free command available on Linux and Cygwin, and probably also for OSX.
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Postby TorbenGB » 10 Nov 2005, 22:16

Whew, that was a lot of work. Now (currently uploading!) contains everything except the largest forum, "TouchStream Keyboards", which contains 16 pages (400 threads)! Those are undoubtedly also very interesting, so I will have to make that effort sooner or later -- and sooner is better...

I would recommend that real Fingerfans read some of the old threads (again). I have come across many interesting details, and we would be well off to remember some of those tips and tricks that were documented in that old forum.

As a sidenote, it's great to see that the Fingerfans forums have attracted more than 150 members already. I'm very pleased to see that the efforts to create this fansite was far from wasted. (The FW forums had at the end.)
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Postby ivanw » 11 Nov 2005, 13:05

Torben, my son John, who has become a geek in the PHP/forums realm, has seen what you are doing here. He could not help coming with his own solution. I know that it is a bit late to contribute, as it is obvious that you had a hard time to get the job done this far :oops: , but I must admit that what he as in mind looks great too!

Yesterday evening, he wrote a PHP sniffer-script that is currently filtering all the FWSF pages hierarchy along with the attached images and files. Theses pages anchors get altered in such a way that their reference is remapped to each new target location and the links related to the dead forum, which have to become inoperative, get grayed out to make them look dead indeed. Mostly all other links will hit their target. And here comes the most handy part: seamless forum-like navigation, as long as all index pages get properly restored along the way.

The result should hopefully provide a simple huge bunch of files that would allow us to navigate the original hierarchy. Only some accessory navigation anchors would be grayed out along with those dealing with member management. The process is still in progress and I don't know yet what it will provide at the end. It just looks good for the moment.

I don't say that you should postpone what you have planned but I'll have more on this at the end of the day. I think that both efforts should be considered worthwhile. I wanted to tell you that if you stumble upon some overwhelming task ahead, you should know that some alternative may bring another way around the issue.

Will remain to provide for some solution to the MISSING search tool issue...
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Postby TorbenGB » 11 Nov 2005, 13:32

Sounds great. I'm sending you an e-mail so we can work on this directly.
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Postby TorbenGB » 14 Nov 2005, 10:23

With regard to the search engine you mentioned, there is also the option to use Google with a code to search only a specified URL.

Example: Googling for "site:forums.fingerworks.com/showthread.php wiggle" gives this result:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Af ... php+wiggle
and we should be able to build a Google search form into our archive pages so that a search would run on either "forums.fingerworks.com" or perhaps even "archive.fingerfans.dreamhosters.com"...
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Postby ivanw » 14 Nov 2005, 18:38

Torben, either I have missed something, or you did not advertise enough about the availability of the captured pages from the former forum.

If you did not do more than mentioning the link "" in you third message in this thread (Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:16), most people will miss the event as it leads to the results from the first attempt.

Don't you think we should make an entry in the index page of this forum? It would even be a good thing to highlight it for a while as a new feature, this could have the side effect of getting some feedback and advices from others.
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Postby TorbenGB » 25 Nov 2005, 13:19

You're absolutely right - we should advertise this more now that it's complete and looking so nice. I've put up , and we also have linked to it from the .
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